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Posted: 9/16/2019 1:29:27 PM EDT
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Especially if it’s a riced-out shit box Civic. GOT TO LIVE THAT STANCE NATION VIP LYFE! I too find it pointless |
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Posted: 9/16/2019 1:31:06 PM EDT
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I had a slight negative camber on my FD. Like 3.5 degrees maybe? But I also drifted it in a lot of events so it wasn't for show. Gave me a little bit of a wider stance and helped the handling a tad more through corners.
I dont understand it for non track cars |
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Posted: 9/16/2019 1:31:55 PM EDT
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Wait until you start seeing more of these
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Posted: 9/16/2019 1:33:02 PM EDT
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Buy a Porsche and when your tires are wearing out go ask why.
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Posted: 9/16/2019 1:34:40 PM EDT
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The Carolina Squat is pants on head retarded too.
Why do it? Is looking "speshul" the only point? |
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Posted: 9/16/2019 1:34:50 PM EDT
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It's not bad if done correctly. People always assume that camber is what destroys tires but excessive toe is much worse.
I've run cars with extreme camber in my past but had correct factory toe measurements...and my tires just barely wore faster than normal. |
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Posted: 9/16/2019 1:34:56 PM EDT
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In before, "Do you even STANCE, bro?"
It started in Japan, as all strange things do, because Japanese vehicle code prohibited the top edges of tires from extending past the wheel well. |
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Posted: 9/16/2019 1:38:36 PM EDT
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Oh, the one I do get a chuckle out of is the Japanese Oni-Camber or "Demon camber"
That's more of a bosozoku style deal though. "Demon camber" lol 
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Posted: 9/16/2019 1:39:42 PM EDT
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Do they remove the springs and shocks and just put a cross piece in? I don't see how the suspension can move at all and not hit the body.
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Posted: 9/16/2019 1:43:19 PM EDT
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Wait until you start seeing more of these https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/898/622/54b.jpg |
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Posted: 9/16/2019 1:44:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/16/2019 1:45:05 PM EDT
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Oh, the one I do get a chuckle out of is the Japanese Oni-Camber or "Demon camber" That's more of a bosozoku style deal though. "Demon camber" lol https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/44BGK/s1/2012-296163-extreme-negative-oni-camber-tuning-600-12-02-20121.jpg 
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Posted: 9/16/2019 1:46:58 PM EDT
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How do you maintain those tires?
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Posted: 9/16/2019 1:50:58 PM EDT
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Saw this stupid shitbox at work awhile back.
Havent seen it around lately. Maybe the fucking wheels fell off.  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/16/2019 1:52:28 PM EDT
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How do you maintain those tires? |
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Posted: 9/16/2019 1:57:19 PM EDT
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The Carolina Squat is pants on head retarded too. Why do it? Is looking "speshul" the only point? 
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Posted: 9/16/2019 1:58:21 PM EDT
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Do they remove the springs and shocks and just put a cross piece in? I don't see how the suspension can move at all and not hit the body. On most suspension designs when the springs compress, the wheels actually move up/inwards. Getting that perfect wheel tuck is kind of a science. You need the perfect combination of ride height, wheel width (and most important, the correct wheel offset) and tire profile. Usually the inner lip on the fender is completely cut out or at just folded up flat. Sometimes they'll pull the fenders out a little so it gives the top of the fender a bit of a bulge for just a 1/2" of extra room. Having the correct wheel offset is key though. That's why you see so many shitty Civics with wheels sticking out past the fenders. This happens when owners buy wheels that are made for rear wheel drive cars that require a lower or negative offset. A 90's era Civic with 15x7 wheels and +35 offset (and the correct profile tires) will have the wheels flush with the fender. But if you stick the same 15x7 wheel with a 0 or neutral offset, the wheel is going to stick out another 35mm past the fender and you WILL have fender rubbing issues if you try to lower the car. It's the same deal with tires. A 205/45 will likely rub but a 195/50 will fit perfectly. It might look stupid but there is a lot of factors you have to take into account to make it work. |
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Posted: 9/16/2019 2:08:31 PM EDT
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I don't get all that negative camber crap. I have a friend that has a Chevy C10 with Porterbuilt dropmembers front and rear and air bags, he can tuck 24" wheels and barely has any negative camber when the truck is aired all the way down.
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Posted: 9/16/2019 2:15:37 PM EDT
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When I was at myrtle beach I saw a lot of this too and could not figure out what the point was..
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/384425/IC90gC1_png-1092228.JPG |
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Posted: 9/16/2019 2:17:18 PM EDT
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Stance makes her dance
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Posted: 9/16/2019 2:19:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's to let other bro's know you like to have a lot of shit packed in the bed. |
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Posted: 9/16/2019 2:19:46 PM EDT
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I don't get all that negative camber crap. I have a friend that has a Chevy C10 with Porterbuilt dropmembers front and rear and air bags, he can tuck 24" wheels and barely has any negative camber when the truck is aired all the way down. Your friend's truck has solid axles where all of the cars shown here have independent suspension. |
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Posted: 9/16/2019 2:36:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Like advertising for butt stuff?
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Posted: 9/16/2019 2:51:43 PM EDT
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How the lowered wheels react depend on the suspension design of the car/truck. Your friend's truck has solid axles where all of the cars shown here have independent suspension. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't get all that negative camber crap. I have a friend that has a Chevy C10 with Porterbuilt dropmembers front and rear and air bags, he can tuck 24" wheels and barely has any negative camber when the truck is aired all the way down. Your friend's truck has solid axles where all of the cars shown here have independent suspension. I was told the extreme negative camber wasn't just a side effect from being lowered but that it is the look they are going for. I've always liked the look of a lowered vehicle, but that extreme negative camber is just stupid looking. |
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Posted: 9/16/2019 2:57:25 PM EDT
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When I was at myrtle beach I saw a lot of this too and could not figure out what the point was..
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/384425/IC90gC1_png-1092228.JPG
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Posted: 9/16/2019 2:59:46 PM EDT
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Still doesn't compare to this kind of fuckery. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/69748/15-inch-g15_jpg-1092215.JPG |
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Posted: 9/16/2019 3:06:45 PM EDT
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I have -3 degrees front and -2.5 rear. Not a huge amount but it is 100% necessary.
I get a full .5g of extra grip on fresh tires thanks to the camber. When cornering at 110mph+ and at 1.8g+, if you don’t have a good amount of camber your contact patch is going to be tiny and you’re going to be skating. |
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Posted: 9/16/2019 3:08:53 PM EDT
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When I was at myrtle beach I saw a lot of this too and could not figure out what the point was..
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/384425/IC90gC1_png-1092228.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Carolina Squat is pants on head retarded too. Why do it? Is looking "speshul" the only point?
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/384425/IC90gC1_png-1092228.JPG If you can't climb on, you don't get to ride the ride 
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Posted: 9/16/2019 3:11:09 PM EDT
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I don't get all that negative camber crap. I have a friend that has a Chevy C10 with Porterbuilt dropmembers front and rear and air bags, he can tuck 24" wheels and barely has any negative camber when the truck is aired all the way down. |
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Posted: 9/16/2019 3:13:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How the lowered wheels react depend on the suspension design of the car/truck. Your friend's truck has solid axles where all of the cars shown here have independent suspension. |
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Posted: 9/16/2019 3:16:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Damn....looks like somethings busted
https://i.stack.imgur.com/vR2OF.jpg https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/kG3OQ/s1/2012-296153-extreme-negative-oni-camber-tuning-800-12-02-20121.jpg
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Posted: 9/16/2019 3:19:28 PM EDT
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I don't get all that negative camber crap. I have a friend that has a Chevy C10 with Porterbuilt dropmembers front and rear and air bags, he can tuck 24" wheels and barely has any negative camber when the truck is aired all the way down. |
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Posted: 9/16/2019 3:22:38 PM EDT
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I'm waiting for positive camber to come in style Its an easy mod, just slide into a curb.
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Posted: 9/16/2019 3:22:53 PM EDT
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Yeah, I guess I'm comparing apples to oranges. I'll admit I know nothing about the suspension under those little import cars. I was told the extreme negative camber wasn't just a side effect from being lowered but that it is the look they are going for. I've always liked the look of a lowered vehicle, but that extreme negative camber is just stupid looking. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't get all that negative camber crap. I have a friend that has a Chevy C10 with Porterbuilt dropmembers front and rear and air bags, he can tuck 24" wheels and barely has any negative camber when the truck is aired all the way down. Your friend's truck has solid axles where all of the cars shown here have independent suspension. I was told the extreme negative camber wasn't just a side effect from being lowered but that it is the look they are going for. I've always liked the look of a lowered vehicle, but that extreme negative camber is just stupid looking. A lot of these cars are trying to run wheels with a large lip face (often referred to as the "barrel"). These wheels tend to be negative offset designs. If you look at an old school muscle car wheel, they will have large lip and the center hub portions sits further inside the wheel. On most modern wheels on FWD cars, the central hub portion is almost flat with the edge of the wheel (considered a positive offset...often listed as a +35 or +45). People that run these extreme camber setups are trying to fit the widest lipped wheel under their fender. That's also why the tend to run "stretched" tires with a narrow tire on a wider rim (example....205/40 on a 16x9" wheel). Running a narrow tire makes the tire sidewall slant inwards and gives you even more room to fit a wider rim under the fenders. Here is similar sized (height) wheels with a different offset/width. The entire wheel looks different. Smaller width/higher offset  Slightly wider but with a negative offset. Having that extra barrel lip is a big deal for people into this trend. Often times these wheels will cost 2X (used market) as the wheels above because of the demand even though the only difference is maybe an 1-2" width. 
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Posted: 9/16/2019 3:27:52 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/16/2019 3:28:16 PM EDT
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I like fitment that is on point.
The BMW crowd seems to be very, very good at it as do some other groups. But #cambergang is pretty dumb IMO (exception being cars that have camber for a reason like race or drift cars). Same thing with the squat stuff on trucks. Have a long travelled/linked preruner where the front sits a bit higher then the back? Cool Have a bro truck with a lift kit in the front and stock height in the rear? Dumb. |
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Posted: 9/16/2019 3:33:20 PM EDT
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Weird. It’s almost as if I don’t pay their bills and dont care what they do with their money.
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Posted: 9/16/2019 3:33:35 PM EDT
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Damn....looks like somethings busted
https://i.stack.imgur.com/vR2OF.jpg https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/kG3OQ/s1/2012-296153-extreme-negative-oni-camber-tuning-800-12-02-20121.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
Damn....looks like somethings busted
https://i.stack.imgur.com/vR2OF.jpg https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/kG3OQ/s1/2012-296153-extreme-negative-oni-camber-tuning-800-12-02-20121.jpg ETA: Quoted:
I'm waiting for positive camber to come in style Its an easy mod, just slide into a curb. https://images.cdn.circlesix.co/image/1/700/0/uploads/memes/2104_13-544bd6434b724.jpg Honey, I just barely bumped into it!!! Tire, wheel, brake rotor, ball joints, control arms, tie rods, steering linkage ... and getting my balls busted in perpetuity by the service department. |
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Posted: 9/16/2019 3:46:55 PM EDT
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Weird. It’s almost as if I don’t pay their bills and dont care what they do with their money. |
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Posted: 9/16/2019 4:14:29 PM EDT
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Stanced vehicles are pants-on-head retarded and their owners tend to be the dumbest of all the rocks in the box. Generally useless trash excuses for human beings.
I can't say I'm really in favor of state vehicle inspections but I would be in favor of certain laws that dictate certain minimum safety requirements for all vehicles. More than 2.5 degrees negative camber would be out of bounds. For safety, the entire tread patch must be in contact with the road. Other things I'd stipulate: All doors and windows must be operable. They must open and close and lock normally. No driving around in a vehicle with a bashed-in door that can't be opened without the Jaws of Life. All lights must be conformant to factory specifications. That may mean you have to pay to get that bashed-in fender or rear quarter panel fixed properly. Bumpers of the factory type must be present, front and rear. No replacing it with a 2x6 and you can't run without a bumper. I don't really care about window tinting and though I think fart can mufflers are just as stupid as stancing a vehicle, I wouldn't outlaw either. |
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Posted: 9/16/2019 4:22:25 PM EDT
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It looks dumb as shit, but it's not my money, so... meh.
You do you, just don't get mad when i say it looks stupid. |
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Posted: 9/16/2019 4:24:19 PM EDT
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Still doesn't compare to this kind of fuckery. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/69748/15-inch-g15_jpg-1092215.JPG |
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Posted: 9/16/2019 4:25:27 PM EDT
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Stanced vehicles are pants-on-head retarded and their owners tend to be the dumbest of all the rocks in the box. Generally useless trash excuses for human beings. I can't say I'm really in favor of state vehicle inspections but I would be in favor of certain laws that dictate certain minimum safety requirements for all vehicles. More than 2.5 degrees negative camber would be out of bounds. For safety, the entire tread patch must be in contact with the road. Other things I'd stipulate: All doors and windows must be operable. They must open and close and lock normally. No driving around in a vehicle with a bashed-in door that can't be opened without the Jaws of Life. All lights must be conformant to factory specifications. That may mean you have to pay to get that bashed-in fender or rear quarter panel fixed properly. Bumpers of the factory type must be present, front and rear. No replacing it with a 2x6 and you can't run without a bumper. I don't really care about window tinting and though I think fart can mufflers are just as stupid as stancing a vehicle, I wouldn't outlaw either.  Attached FileJust....No..  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/16/2019 4:29:54 PM EDT
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Stanced vehicles are pants-on-head retarded and their owners tend to be the dumbest of all the rocks in the box. Generally useless trash excuses for human beings. I can't say I'm really in favor of state vehicle inspections but I would be in favor of certain laws that dictate certain minimum safety requirements for all vehicles. More than 2.5 degrees negative camber would be out of bounds. For safety, the entire tread patch must be in contact with the road. Other things I'd stipulate: All doors and windows must be operable. They must open and close and lock normally. No driving around in a vehicle with a bashed-in door that can't be opened without the Jaws of Life. All lights must be conformant to factory specifications. That may mean you have to pay to get that bashed-in fender or rear quarter panel fixed properly. Bumpers of the factory type must be present, front and rear. No replacing it with a 2x6 and you can't run without a bumper. I don't really care about window tinting and though I think fart can mufflers are just as stupid as stancing a vehicle, I wouldn't outlaw either. 
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Posted: 9/16/2019 4:59:21 PM EDT
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^ = No Fat Chicks If you can't climb on, you don't get to ride the ride Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Carolina Squat is pants on head retarded too. Why do it? Is looking "speshul" the only point?
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/384425/IC90gC1_png-1092228.JPG If you can't climb on, you don't get to ride the ride 
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Posted: 9/16/2019 5:01:15 PM EDT
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I just came across this on FB.  https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/325390/43D9F624-67F3-4498-907A-3F5EA7438354_jpeg-1092328.JPG |
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Posted: 9/16/2019 5:57:37 PM EDT
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I have -3 degrees front and -2.5 rear. Not a huge amount but it is 100% necessary. I get a full .5g of extra grip on fresh tires thanks to the camber. When cornering at 110mph+ and at 1.8g+, if you don’t have a good amount of camber your contact patch is going to be tiny and you’re going to be skating. |
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Posted: 9/16/2019 5:59:40 PM EDT
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The Carolina Squat is pants on head retarded too. Why do it? Is looking "speshul" the only point?
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/384425/IC90gC1_png-1092228.JPG If you can't climb on, you don't get to ride the ride
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Posted: 9/16/2019 6:18:12 PM EDT
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Have you tried going even more in the front? |
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Posted: 9/16/2019 6:19:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm maxed out on the front until I get some different suspension components. I plan to add a little bit when the setup is ready. |
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